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Diane
Sat May 03 2008, 12:45AM
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We have a beautiful 16 month old female neo - who has just injured her back left leg. We did not see it happen - but she suddenly didn't want to put weight on it. So, we took her to the vet and he believes it is a ruptured ACL. The knee was swollen, and the vet gave her an anti inflammatory injection and pain meds yesterday. She is much happier today and putting weight on it. However, she is pretty wobbly when she gets up to walk.
We are scheduled to get Xrays in a couple of days -- the vet is recommending TLPO surgery.
I do not want to go through the surgery unless there is no other option, so I am looking for some advice.
Also - is there a vet in the Phoenix, AZ market that is experienced with Neo's? I like our vet and we have had all good experiences with him, but I think at the very least we need a 2nd opinion before doing anything.


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Kate
Sat May 03 2008, 03:43AM

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If the cruciate is totally torn...Then do go for the surgery. My oldest shepherd had a cruciate done when she was young, and she is now 9 years old...It definitely pays off. The cruciate does not repair itself if torn.

If it's a partial tear I do know of poeple that have left it alone and the dog has done fine...But none of them had such a big dog...

Get the x-rays and find out what's going on...A second opinion is always good...Sorry I am not in the states, so I don't know who to send you to. I am sure someone else here will let you know

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Agrippina
Sat May 03 2008, 07:49AM

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There are actually a few people that have left the leg alone and the dog has done fine. Supplements heavily and lots of rest.
Personally If I had to do it again I would go for a simple reattachment, not a full blow TPLO. I have much misery and ended up putting my male down- 4 yrs later he was still in pain.
Some people here have had good luck with it though. Brian King is one.

Nero after his surgery...


Two years later, still holding his leg up....


Just remember- all surgeries have risks. He simply had a lot of complications. They have not done any research on GIANT breed dogs with a TPLO.


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Sat May 03 2008, 10:37AM

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Here is another option for ligament injuries.
http://www.vet-stem.com/smallanimal/
What is Vet-Stem Regenerative Medicine?

Regenerative medicine uses a concentrated form of autologous adipose-derived adult stem cells to treat traumatic and degenerative diseases, including bowed tendons, ligament injuries, osteoarthritis, and osteochondral defects in horses and dogs.


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Kate
Sat May 03 2008, 03:46PM

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It's my understanding that this could work on partial tears, but not fully torn CL...

Definitely start with the just replacing / repairing the ligment...Always good to have somewhere to go...Sheena had a type of sutcher material put in to replace her CL, and has had no issues. She was up on her feet the next day, and had her foot down by the end of the week...She healed very fast (surprised the vet...I swear it was the massages). It does take about 6 months for full recovery...

Nikki...Poor guy...2 years...Not good Did they make it too tight? I am sorry...

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Sat May 03 2008, 06:03PM

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They thought they may have. Even a severe infection around the metal took him back a few steps. I think the vet was just an "Filtered Word", but ya know. Had the personality of a roach.

If I had to do it over agin I wouldn't do it.

The vet even tried to tell me to get him to pull on the leash during walks. Said it would help. How was I supposed to get an obedience trained mastino to do that?? I spent 19 months getting him to NOT pull on the leash- to magically revert I don't know.

We even spent a ton afterward on hydro therapy. He was better for a few days after the sessions, but not much.

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Kate
Sat May 03 2008, 11:23PM

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I had a specialist do the surgery on Sheena...There was barely any incision made...Definitely a benefit to a faster / easier recovery...

The same specialist did Sheena's two front elbows when she was a pup (fragmented coronoid process)...and her vulvaplasty...I think I bought his new car

I think it is always a great thing to find a specialist in the area of concern, and have them do the work...Rather then a regular vet. The specialists tend to have things down to an art form, and are the least invasive...and the most knowledgable in that particular field.

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Sun May 04 2008, 09:53AM

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A regular vet cannot do a TPLO.

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mel
Sun May 04 2008, 02:46PM

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Waylon , my blood hound , after snapping his cruciate , i had to drive 2 hrs 4 surgery , the most difficult part after was , well slinging his back end for the stairs to get out to do ..#1 and #2 ...he's dam heavy , then was the cage ! 4x4 , keeping him at rest was difficult and there was strick , physio regimnet ... 3-5 minute controled walks , a day ( not easy with a hound) and range of motion sessions , then gradully it worked up , but keeping him DOWN was the hardest ..lotsa kongs full of treats that are almost impossible to get at , bones , bones and more bones! its been about 7 months and he is great has been for , quite some time , i do notice that one knee iss a little stiffer , but he is coming along nicley and its not holding him back at all.

after surgery
and here he is again!feeling better .





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mel
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p.s we did the full TPLO ,


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