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Anna
Wed Apr 30 2008, 07:16AM

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I surprised this wasn't mentioned already, but I was highly encouraged to put my pup (around the same age as yours) on Ester-C from the day I got her to help her joints. She's had her moments where she'll walk funny for a few steps, or lay down in the middle of a walk but for the most part we've had good luck with it.

I hope he checks out alright!

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Latinomasti wrote ...

clb777 wrote ...

Hi-
My puppy is 17 weeks old and in the past few days he really has been having a very hard time using his rear legs. I've always noticed a wobble but figured it was due to him being a puppy and growing. But this has def. progressed. Unfortunately we have hard wood floors and its so hard for him to keep on them that they often slide out and cause him to fall. but again this is new. he has always had a bit harder time on them then the rug but he has never had as many slips as he has in the past fews days. I'm deeply deeply concerned. He is going to his vet tommorow but I would love to hear if others have had this experience.
I've read the posts on the limping and the tripping and the post of Dr. Allen's explanation on there loose joints. I realize it could be similiar. but the falling really worries me.
I feel as though he is avoiding using his legs. i notice he says laying down and just drags himself around w/ his front body when he wants to move (again something he has been doing pretty much since we got him)
I just wanted to hear from other Neo owners if this is something they have dealt w. and if it is just normal for him to be going through this. because if it wasnt for reading the similiar posts i would def. think there was something wrong w/ his legs.
Thanks for all your help




You state in your post that you are "deeply deeply concerned". Why were you not "deeply deeply concered" when he has been doing this for a long time as you state. The poor dog has been in pain and you have just ignored him, NOW that he is in so much pain you want to be the good dog owner and take him to the vet? You should be ashamed of yourself and should not be allowed to own a pet.

I hope your dog gets better and recovers.



Damn you dont have to be a "Filtered Word" about it off the bat!

I would create him as everyone has stated I would also get X rays on his knees as well. Then I would take the X-rays to a different vet and get a 2nd Opinion. I would aslo call the breeder just to give them a heads up of how the dogs is doing. I did have the same problem you did with a dog that I owned. The turn out was horrible. Good luck to you and please keep us posted!
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Wed Apr 30 2008, 09:10AM

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Dat's how he rolls...good advice Thing 1.

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Wed Apr 30 2008, 10:50AM

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Check your pm, clb777 - I have forwarded you contact information for a vet that comes highly recommended. I used him for cherry eye but he has over 10 yrs experience with the breed.

Good luck, Keep us posted. Hoping for the best!! Hang in there. Try starting with some Ester C or maybe a joint supplement.

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Wed Apr 30 2008, 11:21AM

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How awful for your littl' one!
Sorry some people can just fly off the handle.....we all just love animals SO much that sometimes people get a bit CRAZY!!!
Please let us know what the vet has to say...Also dogs act differently about pain then humans, which means he may be in pain but never show or act like he is. Keep him as quiet as possible your safer till he's seen.

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Some young dogs can be extremely lazy as you so rightly put it.

Also as they grow can be stiff after napping and almost seem to pull themselves along and then get up and walk about stiffly and then after 5 mins or so their joints are freed up and no signs of any problems .

Now basically get him on Ester C and Glucosamine Sulphate with chondroitin and crate him until he has at least had a correct diagnosis.

He will not build muscle while crated but it is more advisable to be careful rather than careless with him at this stage.

With the right exercise afterf you should be able to build the muscle up although it will take some time but there are plenty here that can offer you good advice when it comes around.

Also while crating him when he needs to go to the toilet keep him on the leash so that he is controlled at all times.

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Wed Apr 30 2008, 04:46PM
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Diet and environment play a huge part in the development of puppies. i.e., you can't make genetically bad hips better but you can certainly make good hips bad.
More info is needed before an opinion could be given.
What are you feeding - what is the protein level? the calcium level? phosphorous ratio?
What is his body weight - i.e., how much fat cover over the ribs?
In the meantime get him right off slippery floors - buy a piece of outdoor carpet or something with grip and block off a 3m x 3m area for him.


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Nancy you bring a point that I would like to hear more if you dont mind. A dog can get bad hips from environment alone?? Thanks!
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Thu May 01 2008, 01:31PM

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Thanks for everyone that has been supportive. We spent the day at the Vets yesterday taking x-rays and what came back still is leaving questions unanswered but we do know that his hips and knees are good. The vet recommended us going to a specialist she was not sure b/c the xrays werent as clear as they hoped but his neuro tests werent that great and they are concerned it could have something to do w/ his spine. My thoughts mabye wobbler's but I'm still hoping its just a injury. He is still a happy guy and is eating well and shows no signs of being unhealthy so its tough to see him like this. We will know more next week. Again thank you for all the support.

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Anyone have Wendy's email?? She may be able to offer him some assistance.

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